BMW Gran Coupe Concept

Hello, F30 3-series.
http://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2010-gran_coupe_concept/

I wonder if it's more 6-series sans back doors. Looks too big to be a 3. Or I sure hope it is, anyway.

But yeah, goooorgeous.

5 series for sure.

but they just redesigned the 5-series, and the next one in line for a redesgin is the 3, suposedly for MY2012 or '13. Besides, I think it looks small enough to be a 3. Plus it looks mostly mainstream enough if you productionize the design.

hmmm....I take that back, I just read something stating that the F12 6-series is due about the same time, either 2011 or '12. Interesting.
Though I still think we're looking at F30, it may be the 6-er.
But what about that Efficient Dynamics concept? Could that end up being the 6?

See this is the shit that pisses me off. The 6-Series was and has been a 2-Door Coupe, not a 4-door. There is no reason to have another 4-door model between the 5-series and 7-series. Redesign the 6-Series to be something awesome, not a joke.

Who cares, why does a new model have to affect your nostalgia for past models?

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FOUR DOOR COUPE AGGGHHHHHH!!!

VS wrote:Who cares, why does a new model have to affect your nostalgia for past models?

Its not that it ruins my nostalgia for the past models, it's that there is no need for a 4-door version of a Grand Tourer. They already have a 4-door sedan as the 5 and 7 series, there doesn't need to be a 4-door inbetween model. It was a cool idea to bring the 6-series back, but it should stay a 2 door GT not make an along side or replacement model with a 4-door "coupe". Realistically it should be a competitior to some other GT cars out on the market.

And I agree with tailhappy that there is no such thing as a 4-door coupe.

what would differentiate between a 4 door car being a coupe or sedan? because the guy says so? a coupe is a 2 door. a sedan is a 4 door. i dont care what bmw or anyone says.

I don't think we'll see anything like this in production as is. Probably a styling preview for the 6er, sans the rear two doors.

The "4-door coupe" nonsense label would probably apply to a theoretical 9-series, but nothing else.

this is just like how bmw insists on calling their SUVs "sports activity vehicles"

well, that's why I was saying it would probably have to be the 3-series, but if it's not, all you have to do is drop the rear doors, and elongate the front ones, and bam, it's a coupe.
but really i think they're saying it's the "roofline" that makes it a "coupe".
A coupe is a 2-door car based off a sedan with an altered roofline that pays no heed to rear passengers (if any) because it's not made to carry rear passengers, though sometimes it could if it had to. Or perhaps a 2-door car based off its own with said sloping roofline. A two-door vehicle based off of a sedan whose roofline is not altered any different from the sedan on which its based is simply just a 2-door sedan.
however, a four-door sedan with a coupe-like roofline is still just a sedan with shitty headroom.

I saw a Passat this morning that was the closest any sedan has come to mistaking it at first for a coupe. But I agree with everyone else that a four door is a sedan. Someone on the Car & Driver forums straightened me out to the fact that not even all two doors are coupes and that there is such a thing as a two door sedan. It's B-pillar dependent, apparently. Although that might be getting a bit pedantic for most.

Anyway, that BMW would make a nice 3 Series. Too bad any four door without a coupe tag has to be 1.8 metres tall these days.

well, like I said, it's more about how the roof is shaped, or "cut" in regards to height past the b-pillar. if it slopes away with little regard to headroom, it's a coupe (ie.Camaro, Mustang, BMW 6er) . if it's got largely the same proportions as a two-door than it does as a four-door, it's still a 2D sedan (ie. Monaro, BMW 3-series and arguably Challenger to some extent).
b-pillar makes it a regular coupe/sedan, no b-pillar makes it a hardtop coupe/sedan (I.e. last-gen Mercedes CLK, CL etc.).
I think size also tends to play a factor in whether it's a true coupe or a 2D sedan. smaller tends to go towards coupe, larger tends to still be considered sedan to some extent, though I don't think I'd ever call a 6er a sedan. Ja, she's big and heavy, but I still think that'd qualify as a coupe.