Re: GT5 Thread

[Dodge]

We're all fanboys of something. Seriously though, go play 360 for a while and tell me the controller isnt better.

I just agreed that the xbox 360 control is better!!

[Turbojett]

The one thing I never passed on GT4 was that stupid 'Ring race with the SLS (on sports tires, pattern?) where you have to wait 4 minutes and then chase down older slower MBs.

Fucking bullshit AI blocked then too.

Yes people have beaten it, and most of the time they had to resort to corner cutting ad riding the armco around the Karrusell. but there are others who have beaten it keping everything kosher and on the road. They had wheels though. the best i had was a DS3 (obviously after my PS2 went to that great junkyard in the sky).
I came close to beating it once but then rear-ended the gullwing right before the final turn because the bastard-ass AI fucking STABBED his brakes harder than necessary.
And GT4 wall all like: "Oh, five second penalty for you. oh, you can't win this time either. oh, so sorry, but thank you for playing."

Back to 5
I just recently got a Bugatti too.
my first impression was like:
"Holy shit, this things fast as hell!"
and then two seconds later my second impression was:
"Holy shit, why isn't this thing turning?!"
seriously. you have to slow WAY down to make that thing go around a corner. and you have to do some seriously aggressive suspension tuning to get it to stop plowing. unfortunately aggressive suspension setups on an 1100bhp car that weighs two tons even after stage 3 weight reduction heats up the tires too damn quickly. racing hards were gone after about two laps and sports tires completely undoes all the hard suspension tuning because they don't grip on that car at all.
so basically the Bugatti is worthless as a race car; it's basically just a photo travel darling.

I'm also disappointed that Sears Point/Infineon isn't in this game either. that was one of my favorite drift playgrounds in GT4.

[Talon]

^ Ummmm, because it's an 1100 hp car that weighs over two tons. Every time I see it in my garage it reminds me of all the $$$ I dumped into it to win the Like The Wind series only to fail. USed my McLaren Stealth instead.

It is good for B-Spec, though.

[Turbojett]

well, yeah, i realized this after I won the first two races of one series (can't remember what one) against LeMans cars, only to struggle to make a podium finish in the next three. Problem is that the Veyron is the only car i have that even begins to stand a chance against them.
It won the Daytona race in like the wind, but was utterly useless at Indy.
And don't get me started on Indy. I hate it. I hate it I hate it I hate it. fuckin' non-banked 90-degree turns with twerpy-ass Jeff freaking Gordon in my ear--"didja mess up somewhere?"
he's so chipper it makes me sick.
NASCAR sucks. America has much better forms of racing. Why couldn't they have included old Trans Am cars, or ALMS cars, or Grand-Am cars?

So how do you get the stealth F1 then?
I haven't won or run across any of these "stealth" or "chrome line" cars everybody else has been showing off.

[Talon]

well, yeah, i realized this after I won the first two races of one series (can't remember what one) against LeMans cars, only to struggle to make a podium finish in the next three. Problem is that the Veyron is the only car i have that even begins to stand a chance against them.
It won the Daytona race in like the wind, but was utterly useless at Indy.
And don't get me started on Indy. I hate it. I hate it I hate it I hate it. fuckin' non-banked 90-degree turns with twerpy-ass Jeff freaking Gordon in my ear--"didja mess up somewhere?"
he's so chipper it makes me sick.
NASCAR sucks. America has much better forms of racing. Why couldn't they have included old Trans Am cars, or ALMS cars, or Grand-Am cars?

So how do you get the stealth F1 then?
I haven't won or run across any of these "stealth" or "chrome line" cars everybody else has been showing off.

I'm surprised you won the Daytona race in the Veyron. I'd get to turn one and it'd either be an understeer fest or I'd have to brake so early the other cars were gone. I only tried it a couple times and said f it.

And there are a ton of ALMS cars in this game, old and new...

Gordon is annoying, especially during the pit-stop challenge where you have to wait for it every time. So glad I got a medal on that one after like two tries. BTW, make sure your ABS is all the way off and your car will carry a lot more speed around the ovals. Don't really know why, but trust me...

I got the Stealth Mac 'cause I preordered at Gamestop.

[Talon]

The Stealth Mac on Daytona. Those fuckers were pretty much right there for the whole race.

[Turbojett]

Oh, i've seen the LM cars. I can't afford them is all. I can't just start hoarding credits like I did in GT4 in this game, especially since you can only win each car once. but the LM cars are in the proper FIA LeMans series, not IMSA ALMS (though there's little to no difference).
Daytona was relatively easy, but for that first corner you have to brake waaaaaaaay earlier than the line says, and make sure your wheels are still relatively straight when you start. But after that, the trail braking is a Hail Mary. I pulsed the brake (Poor Man's ABS) while I was trail braking and it kept the car pretty well in line. from there it was all holding them off until the next corner, but I had pretty much got them off my back by the back straight on the second lap. my wheels are pretty diamond-toed (front very toe-in, rear very toe-out, but not all the way on either.) I don't know if that helped with the inner road course.

[Andrew]

well, yeah, i realized this after I won the first two races of one series (can't remember what one) against LeMans cars, only to struggle to make a podium finish in the next three. Problem is that the Veyron is the only car i have that even begins to stand a chance against them.
It won the Daytona race in like the wind, but was utterly useless at Indy.

B-spec is your friend. Get your Bob to take your Veyron into the GT World Championship and win the Zonda R. If you have the skill it can win Like the Wind. Catch them in the corners, block them on the straights. Enjoy your Minolta prize car.

Either that or find a friend with an LMP car and borrow it to kick some ass.

[zdc_LarryRX]

GT5 gave me a 1983 Nissan Silvia stockish rally car for my birthday today.

[Turbojett]

man FUCK B-spec!!
Why the fuck did they have to make this half the fucking game?! I haven't even got it past level nine yet. The drivers are so fucking incompetent! they can't run a consistent lap to save their lives without spinning out (even after you tell them to slow down).
If you tell them to overtake, they either sniff the ass of the car in front of them for five and a half laps, or they challenge them to a drift duel--which of course, they are immediately taken up on--NOT.
Seriously. I entered the Euro Hot Hatch League with a fucking MASERATI. the first three tries, thes fucks were coming in LAST PLACE, getting cold dusted by Volkswagens, old Alfas, and the same fucking blue Peugeot that would ALWAYS pit maneuver them at the hairpin sections on Eiger. And they'd just sit there and take it, spinning around twice, and then waiting patiently by the side of the track for EVERYONE to pass them before getting back in the race. I'm like "WTF are you doing you fucking moron!?! Get back in there!!"
Fucking Bullshit. It's a study in frustration. I could find a seven year old than can drive better.

[Turbojett]

GT5 gave me a 1983 Nissan Silvia stockish rally car for my birthday today.

oh, lol, happy late one then.

[zdc_LarryRX]

man FUCK B-spec!!
Why the fuck did they have to make this half the fucking game?! I haven't even got it past level nine yet. The drivers are so fucking incompetent! they can't run a consistent lap to save their lives without spinning out (even after you tell them to slow down).
If you tell them to overtake, they either sniff the ass of the car in front of them for five and a half laps, or they challenge them to a drift duel--which of course, they are immediately taken up on--NOT.
Seriously. I entered the Euro Hot Hatch League with a fucking MASERATI. the first three tries, thes fucks were coming in LAST PLACE, getting cold dusted by Volkswagens, old Alfas, and the same fucking blue Peugeot that would ALWAYS pit maneuver them at the hairpin sections on Eiger. And they'd just sit there and take it, spinning around twice, and then waiting patiently by the side of the track for EVERYONE to pass them before getting back in the race. I'm like "WTF are you doing you fucking moron!?! Get back in there!!"
Fucking Bullshit. It's a study in frustration. I could find a seven year old than can drive better.

I have to pimp out the cars all the way to insure a win but even then I have to baby sit them. Telling them to pass every once in a while till they get to the front then calming them down and ocasionally to pick up the pace in order to keep them infront. I've had my car go off the course so many times n just sit there also lol. Then i realized that I didn't have the best tires I could have used in the race. Made a big difference when I did.

[Talon]

man FUCK B-spec!!
Why the fuck did they have to make this half the fucking game?! I haven't even got it past level nine yet. The drivers are so fucking incompetent! they can't run a consistent lap to save their lives without spinning out (even after you tell them to slow down).
If you tell them to overtake, they either sniff the ass of the car in front of them for five and a half laps, or they challenge them to a drift duel--which of course, they are immediately taken up on--NOT.
Seriously. I entered the Euro Hot Hatch League with a fucking MASERATI. the first three tries, thes fucks were coming in LAST PLACE, getting cold dusted by Volkswagens, old Alfas, and the same fucking blue Peugeot that would ALWAYS pit maneuver them at the hairpin sections on Eiger. And they'd just sit there and take it, spinning around twice, and then waiting patiently by the side of the track for EVERYONE to pass them before getting back in the race. I'm like "WTF are you doing you fucking moron!?! Get back in there!!"
Fucking Bullshit. It's a study in frustration. I could find a seven year old than can drive better.

Not really sure what the problem is. My B-Spec guy is pretty decent. The first few races were touchy, when the cars were very limited, but he's got experience now and I've got way awesome cars. Now, I just put him in a much better car and he destroys. I think I used my 88CV for the MR races. Now that I have the Formula GT, it's cake.

There were some cars I wanted from B-Spec (88 Countach, F-40, Zonda-R) which is the only reason I do/did it.

[Turbojett]

maybe I'm just choosing the wrong ones. I always try to get them as neutral as possible, if not a tick or two onto the red side.

[Talon]

My dude is all the way in the red until I get him passed everyone,then I lay off some. They'll make more mistakes, but he's got enough XP to control the cars even at blood red.

[Andrew]

B-Spec observations:

Bob needs a vastly superior car to that of his opponents. Unless the race is of a good length(10 laps plus), Bob will need the whole distance to get past the field.

Your bob is still an AI driver, and in the beginning, he is a very bad one. Give him time and he will grow and blossom into a mediocre one, which is quite an improvement.

Don't forget to give certain commands early. If you are coming up on slower moving traffic, pace up to get Bob close, then give the overtake command at the apex of the last corner before the straight. This helps alot in getting past cars cleanly.

Bob applies full throttle on every corner exit. How red his pace is determines what throttle point he uses on corner exit. Adjust accordingly.

The strength and mental strength bars do nothing. Ignore them completely.

If your bob is all up on the ass of the leader, you don't have to pass them. Often if you keep Bob right on their ass, they will screw the pooch within a lap, often going wide into a high speed corner, and bob sails past.

If your driver sucks, retire the fucker and start again. If you have a great car, you can park a brand new driver in it and run an extreme event to level them up very quickly.

Finally, if you still hate your bobs and want them to die, just get an X2010 and let them cakewalk the enduros to farm credits.

[Dodge]

shocking choice of cars, im sure

[Turbojett]

shocking choice of cars, im sure

And you can collect the whole set! Sil80, 240SX, 200SX 180SX...

B-Spec observations:

Bob needs a vastly superior car to that of his opponents. Unless the race is of a good length(10 laps plus), Bob will need the whole distance to get past the field.

Your bob is still an AI driver, and in the beginning, he is a very bad one. Give him time and he will grow and blossom into a mediocre one, which is quite an improvement.

Don't forget to give certain commands early. If you are coming up on slower moving traffic, pace up to get Bob close, then give the overtake command at the apex of the last corner before the straight. This helps alot in getting past cars cleanly.

Bob applies full throttle on every corner exit. How red his pace is determines what throttle point he uses on corner exit. Adjust accordingly.

The strength and mental strength bars do nothing. Ignore them completely.

If your bob is all up on the ass of the leader, you don't have to pass them. Often if you keep Bob right on their ass, they will screw the pooch within a lap, often going wide into a high speed corner, and bob sails past.

If your driver sucks, retire the fucker and start again. If you have a great car, you can park a brand new driver in it and run an extreme event to level them up very quickly.

Finally, if you still hate your bobs and want them to die, just get an X2010 and let them cakewalk the enduros to farm credits.

I have observed all this as well too. although I still think that the "overtake" command is absolutely useless because they don't, no matter when you give the command. I found that a lot of times hitting "pace up" right before Start will a lot of times actually get them to find the opening after everybody moves over onto the line and just sail past most of the grid at the beginning, where as giving the "overtake" command at the start will make them try to bump-draft each individual opponent in front of them. this also works well during the course of the race: giving the "overtake" command I've found myself scoffing as the "bob" rides up on an opponent, seemingly ready to pass him on the easiest, most logical side, where there's plenty of room, only to tuck in behind him, and then attempt an overtake on the opponent's other side, where there is more often than not no room at all between a barrier, an outside curb, or off-track. hitting "pace up" as he approaches the opponent makes him sail past him with no regard.
my drivers have graduated though. now, when i give the "overtake" command, they at least attempt an actual overtake before chickening out and backing off (I shit you not). maybe they'll learn soon enough, but watching them struggle to move up a pack in a car that's twice it's nearest competition, knowing that I can (and did) do much better in an even lesser car is maddening.
how do you unlock the enduros anyway? I don't think I have yet.

[Dodge]

No s13 240sx, which makes me sad

[zdc_LarryRX]

no first gen RX-7 either, fuckers . They have 2 '85 RX-7s but they are second gen. models in the game.

[Honor]

it wont let me take pictures or even change the wheels on my corolla levin because it's not a "premium" car. so most of the cars in this game you can't cosmetically alter at all or take pictures of? fucking lame. call me a fanboy but this game fails hard on so many levels.

and the whole needing a paint chip to repaint a car is fucking retarded. i like the ability to do an engine, chassis etc. overhaul though.

[Turbojett]

you can take pictures of any car in the game, and paint almost any.
See, The DeLorean's a standard model...


although I'm perturbed that the game won't let me paint the standard model Viper GTS from Black/Silver to Blue/white like they should be...
but I agree on not being able to change the wheels. As I said before, I fucking want Wats on my KPGC10.

[Honor]

Oh. Well it still wont let you take a picture in scenery outside of race. Not sure that I would want to anyway because it's a standard model so it kind of looks like crap.

[Turbojett]

yeah, i figured you meant the photo mode after I went home that night, and I tested that out on my Furai. Yeah, that's retarded, but whatever. I like taking pics of my car when I'm driving it, so its really not that big of a deal to me.

although i must agree that half the soundtrack is better off being replaced by your own music.

[Dodge]

Yeah for sure, the shuffle is a little flaky (tends to play mostly the first dozen)

[Turbojett]

well not even that, just the type of music, and the quality. like that one that starts out really loud with this dischordant synth and the whole song from that point continues to suck. I looked up the title when i went into the music folder and turned it off, it's called "Talk Box"--it has now become my most hated song.
and freaking My Chemical Romance? c'mon, people. nobody listens to that shit except stupid preteen girls who try overy hard to be "cool" and "rebellious" at the same time.

[zdc_LarryRX]

I turned all the music off and listen only to my stuff. Sucks that you still have to listen to the crappy music in the GT room and Tuning room, also I think in all three dealership rooms too but what ever.

[Turbojett]

I don't mind hearing the Entertainer in GTAuto. I always liked that song because The Sting is one of my favorite movies.

[dunnas]

If you guys want to make some money do the seasonal races that were introduced with the last patch. I did the 5 regular races from week three on wednesday night and even after spending heaps on each car to get it into a condition to dominate (the Rally car you need for the 5th race costs $850,000 plus some upgrades but pays out $1,500,000 total when you come first) I still went from $200,000 to $2,200,000 over the course of an hour and a half.

[Talon]

I haven’t played the game in a while ‘cause I’ve been playing CoD BO. But, those seasonal races they keep adding are legit! They give great $ and XP and are a challenge. I like doing the slower car ones. The 2g RX7 was one of my favorites. Got first on it twice; the second time I passed the Silvia on the final straight. Pretty exciting races.

[Turbojett]

Ah, I'm missing out on some of the best stuff happening online. Any word on any possible DLC packs coming out anytime soon?

No s13 240sx, which makes me sad

Um, I thought those were S13's.

[Dodge]

those are S13 Silvias and 180sx, there is no 240sx (lhd, N/A)

[Turbojett]

those are S13 Silvias and 180sx, there is no 240sx (lhd, N/A)

Well, there is an S13 240SX in that game, at least in name as it still has the JDM nose as opposed to the ones on your (real) cars. I own one of each of them: a 240, a 200, a 180 and a SilEighty. the 240 in fact was one of my earliest cars.
edit: it is in fact LHD.

[Turbojett]

If you have the skill [the Zonda R] can win Like the Wind.

Luck helps too. Fuckin douchebag AIs can't pass you cleanly. They all have to try to PIT manuever you or smear you into the wall as they pass and like four or five guys are trying to spin you at once... and then while you're holding off one guy, about three other guys drafting each other go sailing past you like you're driving a Fiat. If you move over and try to hold them off, the guy you were holding off breaks the draft and slingshots past you. And all this shit ALWAYS HAPPENS ON THE FRONT STRAIGHT, ON THE LAST LAP, AFTER YOU'VE BEEN LEADING THE WHOLE FUCKIN THING FOR THE PAST THREE OR FOUR LAPS!!!!
That's about they only way they can win is to race dirty.
finally did win it though, but it needed just about every performance part you could put on it and some medium racing tires. I figured out how to hit those turns without braking, just liftoff and throttle modulation. helped a lot, but I don't think I could have swung that on the racing hards it comes with. Zonda -> meet wall.

the "Indy 500" is gonna suck.

[Dodge]

those are S13 Silvias and 180sx, there is no 240sx (lhd, N/A)

Well, there is an S13 240SX in that game, at least in name as it still has the JDM nose as opposed to the ones on your (real) cars. I own one of each of them: a 240, a 200, a 180 and a SilEighty. the 240 in fact was one of my earliest cars.
edit: it is in fact LHD.

are you sure? Ive only seen a 240sx S14 listed hmmm

[Turbojett]

The Whole Set:
The LHD 240SX, replete with erroneous J-market bumpers, taillamps and spolier (the S14's make this same mistake, although the S14 200SX has the correct equipment)


My SilEighty all Initial-D and shit:

painted a nice S15 bright blue.

Euro-Market 200SX:


J-Market 180SX/hovercar:


And the original:


The Sil80 is the best drifter, the Silvia is the best all-rounder, the rest of them are all the same and they kinda suck.

[Turbojett]

On another note....

Holy shit, looks at this, this is insane!


and this car is assolutamente pazzo.

[Dodge]

yeah the "240sx" must just be the same model as the 180sx they just flipped the driving position.

front bumper is wrong, wing is wrong, side skirts are wrong, wheels are wrong, and I bet the motor is wrong too

I don't understand why you'd bother including them, and completely ignore what car it actually is..and they've done it since GT2, 240sx has always been a 96 180sx

[Turbojett]

yeah the "240sx" must just be the same model as the 180sx they just flipped the driving position.

front bumper is wrong, wing is wrong, side skirts are wrong, wheels are wrong, and I bet the motor is wrong too

I don't understand why you'd bother including them, and completely ignore what car it actually is..and they've done it since GT2, 240sx has always been a 96 180sx

well I think the info said it was a different engine, and it had a better post-oil change power output than the 180, but it matched the SilEighty, so I dunno.
Plus I like the wing, taillights, side skirts better....not so much the front though.

but like I said, with the S14A's, the "US Market" 240SX still has the erroneous J-market bumper, grille, etc, but the Euro market 200SX has the correct bumper/grille that should be on ours too. I mean jeez, don't these guys know how to do a Google search?

[spaced cowboy]

I've been playing for a few months and at this point, have a couple of conclusions. First, as much as I may try, doing the game with premium only cars is kinda tough. But I'm pissed at some of the total shitboxes they put in premium mode, while leaving a ton of great cars to standard mode. I wonder how the Poliphony staff would feel about Japanese language hate mail?

I refuse to play B-Spec. I don't care if that means I never finish the game or get all the cars. I bought the game to play myself, not to watch an incompetent AI dent my cars.

Prize money is once again way too low and leads to too much grinding for cash.

Getting rid of standing starts is annoying.

This game could have been much, much better, and given that it took them half a decade, should have been.

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