okay... DRAFT TIME! advice, opinions, whatever. FANTASY FOOTBALL 09!

i'm in a keeper league. 3 keepers this year. here's my roster from last year (it got me 5th out of 10) and their stats.



passing rushing receiving returning
Player Yds TD Int Yds TD Yds TD TD 2PT Lost Fan Pts
Bernard Berrian (Min - WR) 0 0 0 26 0 964 7 1 0 1 142
Kevin Boss (NYG - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 384 6 0 0 0 69
Jerricho Cotchery (NYJ - WR) 0 0 0 8 0 858 5 0 1 1 112
Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 664 4 0 0 0 83
Ryan Grant (GB - RB) 0 0 0 1203 4 116 1 0 0 3 151
Marvin Harrison (Ind - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 636 5 0 0 1 86
Santonio Holmes (Pit - WR) 0 0 0 9 0 821 5 0 0 1 105
Peyton Manning (Ind - QB) 4002 27 12 21 1 0 0 0 1 0 343
Darren McFadden (Oak - RB) 0 0 0 499 4 285 0 0 0 1 92
Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 596 7 0 0 0 96
Michael Turner (Atl - RB) 0 0 0 1699 17 41 0 0 0 2 273
LenDale White (Ten - RB) 0 0 0 773 15 16 0 0 0 1 159




so. who do i keep?

thinking Turner and Manning, and let the third slot go to the auxiliary preliminary draft (in which we draft until everyone has 3 players "kept" then the real draft begins.

Anthony Gonzales is going to be a big part of the Colts offense with Harrison gone. He might be worth looking into keeping.

Minnesota's QB situation is very uncertain and you can't go by a preseason game, but Shiancoe looked really good last night and was making Rosenfels look good. He could potentially have a big year for a TE, but I don't know if he'd be worth keeping.

as long as you don't have fitzgerald or polamalu on your team, you're good. if you've got either of them, then you have to cut them asap.

i can't see gonzalez as a keeper. if i had wayne... gonz would be great, but there will be WRs all over in the preliminary draft. i'll get my pick. of course, doubling up on points is nice though.


manning and turner for sure. grant? maybe? he's a top 20 back...

draft is sunday. should i keep Grant or no?

keep in mind there will be other, possibly better players on the board at that time. including some top flight WRs.

actually, i just ran thru other ppls rosters and comparo'd...
i definitely am going to leave Ryan Grant behind.

I like Grant but he only went in the tenth or so in my live draft last night. This was after 2 offensive keepers (Andre Johnson + Randy Moss...yeah) as well.

Of those the safe pick is Anthony Gonzales and the riskier is McFadden. Before his toe injury he kicked a whole lot of ass last yr.

My Team:

QB: Matt Schaub and Matt Cassel. I need to make a trade here, if only for depth.

WR: Randy Moss, Andre Johnson, Michael Crabtree, Percy Harvin. Kept 2 monsters so picked high risk/high return WRs late.

RB: Marion Barber, Darren McFadden, Darren Sproles, Marshawn Lynch. Likely will use Lynch as one of the 2 leads after his suspension.

TE: Chris Cooley. Caught end of a TE run, lucky I got him.

Who gives a fuck about kickers and we play IDP so I got Patrick Willis, Demeco Ryans and Jerod Mayo

draft results:

QB:
P. Manning
B. Roethlisberger

RB:
M. Turner
R. Grant
L. Johnson
D. Sproles
J. norwood

WR:
A. Gonzalez
B. Berrian
S. Holmes
D. Driver
Deion Branch

TE:
Dallas Clark

K:
S. Gostkowski

D:
Chicago

If you play 3WRs those are awful. Otherwise a pretty good team, lots of doubling up pts with one of the more reliable QBs in the league.

I had Holmes last year and he was very hit-or-miss. Likely that won't change. Gonzales could be explosive this year but we won't know exactly what his role will be for a while. Since you have Peyton at QB he might really pay off for you though.

yeah, i need WR help, truly. thinking of making a trade somewhere.

would you trade Zach Miller and Greg Jennings for Dallas Clark and Donald Driver?

Given your situation it's hit or miss really. Dallas/Peyton make arguably the best combo in the league, but Greg Jennings should well outperform Donald Driver.

I do like to diversify though - I'd personally take it. Having Manning, Gonzales and Clark will eventually fuck you. Just much less likely to do so than other QB/WR/TE combinations.

Also, are any high risk WRs available on the wire?

crabtree, chambers, muhammed, gage, heyward-bey, devery henderson...

maybe i should put gonzalez on the block?
ywould you keep gonz or clark?

maybe i should just watch this game and decide after... i'd just like to make moves.

big_jesus wrote:maybe i should put gonzalez on the block?
ywould you keep gonz or clark?

Clark is one of the top three TEs in the league, possibly the best depending on who you ask.

Gonzo *might* have a good season.

I'd hedge my bets and go with Clark.

Yeah those free agents suck.

Clark is a top-3 TE, but the difference between good and great WRs is bigger than the difference between good and great TEs.

And trading away one of your better wideouts probably isn't a good idea - keep depth, especially if you play 3 WRs. Jennings, Gonzales and Holmes isn't the worst combo you can put out there.

Last piece of advice - drop Deion Branch. For anybody.

i picked him up in the 15th round. hes a waiver trader

He's a curse upon your team. Drop him for Miles Austin.

BJ, hope you didn't keep Gonzo

If you don't have a waiver request for either Ben Watson or Jeremy Shockey you're crazy. I'm 2nd waiver position in both leagues I'm in right now so will def. get one of em.

RE: post above Jay's - Austin got a TD. Someone's gotta catch homo's balls.

Austin? seems like a longshot. isn't he like 4th in the depth chart?

also, i dont need those other TEs. Dallas Clark's value just shot up.

big_jesus wrote:Austin? seems like a longshot. isn't he like 4th in the depth chart?

3rd. He's ahead of Sam Hurd.

And it's not necessarily about your needs, it's about gaining trade value.

If either Watson or Shockey builds a real rapport with their QB they'll be a top 3 TE if not top 1. Then Dallas Clark (or one of those two guys) becomes some serious fucking trade bait.

Note that while Carlson got 2 TDs this week I'm not telling you to run and pick him up. Hasselbeck ain't no Brees and certainly ain't no Brady.

the haters are eating dicks right now. i remember some fag "fantasy expert" saying that manning would be a bust this year.
HA!
41 points.
FORTY FUCKING ONE POINTS. and 12 to clark. for a tight end, he is outperforming most of my WRs. Driver monstered today too. my RBs didn't even show up though. thank god turner got that TD. i shoulda played benson. but i thought that if there was ANY time to play grant, it was against STL. fuck.

Holmes? nowhere. fail. epic fucking fail. dropped like 5 balls.
Berrian! wtf, favre? BERRIAN. make it happen.
thankfully, driver overpoduced.

picked up burleson again.

dropped burleson again. oops.
oh well, i am now 4 and 1, so i've been doing something right.

so do i get rid of berrian or sproles?

I'd drop choice long before Sproles

And I just made a trade myself:

to me: Terrel Owens and Kellen Winslow

from me: Percy Harvin, Jeremy Shockey (note above trade value talk!), Darren Sproles


PS I don't need Owens, it's a depth pickup. Still have Moss and Andre Johnson as my two WRs.

choice is getting the majority of the carries on dallas, a run-heavy team these days. sproles hasn't run very much at all this season. he's a receiver, basically...
i mean, when do you play him?

and choice did really well this week.

I don't.

With Barber recovering and Jones returning after the bye Choice is effectively valueless unless your live rosters are huge.

Sproles will contribute further as the season progresses and Tomlinson breaks down.

So before the 4:00 games start, I'm looking at my fantasy league thinking, "I still have a chance at winning my game, that is if Carson Palmer manages to throw 5 touchdowns. So I guess my week is fucked."

And I'll be a son of a bitch, he did it.

(sorry BJ).

I still need for Brandon Jacobs to break his ankle on his way out of the tunnel tonight, though.

Brandon Jacobs gets no more than 9 fantasy points in a game all year, and he got 11 before halftime. Fffffffuuuuuuuuu...

you have Cutler, Flacco, Reggie Wayne and Celek (PHI TE), and i have Manning, Roethlisberger, Santonio Holmes, and Dallas Clark. Would you trade me Wayne and Celek for Big Ben, Holmes, and Clark?

you guys are worthless.