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Post by JaysonAych Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:16 pm

Well, I joined up on cbssports.com and my draft was today. The FF on cbssports.com seemed pretty well featured, the league I found seemed pretty cool, and I can actually access it from work :blowjobface:

Here's my team...

Indiana Tornadoes

Player Bye
Brees, Drew QB NO 9
Barber, Marion RB DAL 10
White, LenDale RB TEN 6
Curry, Ronald WR OAK 5
Harrison, Marvin WR IND 4
Holmes, Santonio WR PIT 6
Gates, Antonio TE SD 9
Vinatieri, Adam K IND 4
DEF Steelers DST 6

RESERVES
Cutler, Jay QB DEN 8
Taylor, Fred RB JAC 7
Hester, Devin WR CHI 8
Heap, Todd TE BAL 10
DEF Buccaneers DST 10
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Post by Aristotle Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:16 pm

how do they decide the draft positioning? is it first come, first draft? lottery?
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Post by JaysonAych Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:48 pm

Aristotle wrote:how do they decide the draft positioning? is it first come, first draft? lottery?

On this one, the site randomly selected the draft order for the first round. In the second round, whoever picked last in the first round picked first and it went backwards from the first round order. Then it went back the other way in the third round, and so on...

There were 12 teams, and in the first round, I picked 9th.
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Post by Aristotle Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:31 pm

ah, okay. word.
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Post by 911 Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:32 am

I have a draft next thurs and next friday. Unfortunately only one money league.

While betting money wouldn't be all that interesting with randoms, I don't see why you wouldn't add a bit of cash to give that extra incentive when you're in a league with friends.

Both keeper leagues too. In the one that matters I am keeping LT and Randy Moss.

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Post by 911 Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:54 am

JaysonAych wrote:Well, I joined up on cbssports.com and my draft was today. The FF on cbssports.com seemed pretty well featured, the league I found seemed pretty cool, and I can actually access it from work :blowjobface:

Here's my team...

Indiana Tornadoes

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Brees, Drew QB NO
Good QB pick, he had an off season last year and Shockey should add another dimension. I've never had good fantasy QBs, Vick 2 yrs ago and a mix of Schaub/Cutler last yr.

Barber, Marion RB DAL
Fucking awesome pick. Unless Felix Jones turns out to steal carries he'll be top 5 easily

White, LenDale RB TEN
I can't say a whole lot of great things about this guy. Sharing carries and perennially out of shape. If he has significant value in your league I'd suggest trading. This statement may come back to make me look dumb.

Curry, Ronald WR OAK
Rule 1 in fantasy - never pick a Raider. I despise this pick.

Harrison, Marvin WR IND
Probably some favoritism in this pick but hard to go wrong. Old and injury prone though, I'm specifically avoiding him despite owning him in previous years

Holmes, Santonio WR PIT
Someone has to catch Roethlisberger's passes. Could be his breakout 3rd yr (I think)

Gates, Antonio TE SD
The only thing I don't like about this pick is that it was probably really early to get gates. I'm specifically waiting on a TE to get a riskier guy like a Shockey or a Tony Scheffler (someone will own him by week 4 if not already).

Vinatieri, Adam K IND
Again some favoritism - I don't like spending anyhthing but the last pick on a kicker. It's all too likely that some shitty red zone team will have an ace kicker and take a ton of FGs. Cards guy did well last year. I'd bet on Detroit's kicker.

DEF Steelers DST
I've been playing IDP the last few years so don't know team D but the Steelers are usually a solid pick especially later in the season (i.e. playoffs) when it's cold as hell at Heinz Field.

RESERVES
Cutler, Jay QB DEN
I predict you will have a QB controversy - he played a relatively good year last year. With undiagnosed diabetes.
Taylor, Fred RB JAC
Hate it. This is the year MJD will finally fucking take over after frustrating fantasy owners for 2 years now.
Hester, Devin WR CHI
I hope returns count. I don't trust return man converts.
Heap, Todd TE BAL
You don't need two TEs, particularly two TEs that you might've had to spend a good pick on. Heap's best days appear behind him now
DEF Buccaneers DST
You DEFINITELY don't need two Ds. Use the extra slot to grab flyers off the waiver wire to see if they work out.

This is assuming QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1D/1K and std. scoring. Although I'm not sure my leagues run that (1pt/10 rush/rec yds, 1pt/25 pass yds, 6 pts for all TDs). And if the TE slot is a flex then you definitely don't need two.

If you can get these guys for cheap/free do so. They're on my list of guys I want.

QB:
If you have a free spot you may want to pick up either Matt Ryan, Jamarcus Russell or Leinart. Crunch time for the last two and Ryan may be able to pull together some #s.

WR:
Calvin Johnson - mark my words he will match Roy Williams in production. I hope Martz leaving doesn't doom Kitna.
Lee Evans - benefits from Edwards not being a rook anymore. Deep threat.
Roddy White seems to be gaining a rapport with Matt Ryan.

RB:
Ricky Williams - the phins can produce RB numbers while losing every single game
Reggie Bush - lots of folks are down on him, you may be able to pick him up cheap. I guarantee you if you're throwing Gates' name around that you could get a player of his caliber. Good TE = great rushing numbers.
Rashard Mendenhall - Willie's injury prone and they're a great offense period. Shove anyone in and get 100yds+TD

TE:
Shockey
Tony Scheffler - Broncos guy. Will break out, he had great numbers when Shanahan let him on the field

I think too much about this stuff.

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Post by 911 Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:56 am

Sneaky TE pickup might be Alge Crumpler - running QBs often lean on the dump pass to the TE since by the time they scramble all the WRs are too far away.

And Crump's the king of scramble support.

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Post by JaysonAych Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:52 am

I was thinking I might have read the rules wrong...it was my understanding that I had to draft 2 defenses and 2 TEs. But taking another look at the rules, I think I was reading the rules for auto drafting and not live drafting. Oops.

I picked late in the odd rounds and early in the even rounds, so I was able to get a good QB/RB combo early. I'm not too crazy about the WR situation myself, though I think Marvin will have a good year (yes, a bit of favoritism did play into that, but he was one of the top 3 receivers left by the time I got around to him). If Jamarcus Russell turns out to have a great season, the Curry pick might pan out.

The Viniateri pick was one of those in the odd rounds, where I was going to get another pick in just a few more turns. It was later in the draft and one of those situations where conventional wisdom might have said pick him next round and get a WR this round, but I think it was the next pick where I got Curry and most receivers available at the time were about as risky or meh, so went ahead with the kicker.

Hester is my gamble pick where I'll either look like a blithering idiot or a goddamned genius. There were better 4th option WRs available, but I took a chance that he might do something this year. We'll see how that goes. Heap was my next to last pick before the reserve defense.
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Post by 911 Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:53 pm

You can probably drop Taylor and people will only pick him up to handcuff MJD. He may have some trade value based on that though.


And I suggest trading Gates. I just don't like having that much value at TE, he's probably worth more to someone else and you can definitely pick up a solid WR for his services.

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Post by 911 Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:54 pm

Although depending on how good the people in your league are it may be more or less difficult to trade. Less experienced fantasy people don't always know the value of that they have.

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Post by big_jesus Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:11 pm

well, i'm in a keeper league and have the option of keeping up to 2 of my players. if i don't, then i'll enter a preliminary draft to fill my pre-draft roster to 2 players.

Marc Bulger - STL QB
Nate Burleson - SEA WR
Jay Cutler - DEN QB
Owen Daniels - HOU TE
Donald Driver - GB WR
Jeff Garcia - TB QB
Edgerrin James - ARI RB
Shaun McDonald - DET - WR
Heath Miller - PIT TE
Willie Parker - PIT RB
Antwaan Randle El - WAS WR
Selvin Young - DEN WR
Kris Brown - Hou K
San Diego - D

i have no idea.
Jay Cutler will probably have a great year, and i personally think that Selvin Young will too. but i'm not sure that keeping either is the right move.
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Post by Aristotle Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:46 pm

big_jesus wrote:well, i'm in a keeper league and have the option of keeping up to 2 of my players. if i don't, then i'll enter a preliminary draft to fill my pre-draft roster to 2 players.

Marc Bulger - STL QB
Nate Burleson - SEA WR
Jay Cutler - DEN QB
Owen Daniels - HOU TE
Donald Driver - GB WR
Jeff Garcia - TB QB
Edgerrin James - ARI RB
Shaun McDonald - DET - WR
Heath Miller - PIT TE
Willie Parker - PIT RB
Antwaan Randle El - WAS WR
Selvin Young - DEN WR
Kris Brown - Hou K
San Diego - D

i have no idea.
Jay Cutler will probably have a great year, and i personally think that Selvin Young will too. but i'm not sure that keeping either is the right move.

will miss half the season after contracting legionnaires' disease from a bad batch of jones 'the-only-soft-drink-served-in-qwest-field' soda.
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Post by big_jesus Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:55 pm

i think i'll dump the team and go for 2 better ones in the prelim draft
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Post by big_jesus Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:11 am

by the way, every single other team has 2 actual stars on their teams to keep. that's 18 great players gone.
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Post by 911 Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:53 pm

Willie Parker and Edgerrin James are your best bets

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Post by big_jesus Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:24 pm

i dumped them all. fuck both of those guys.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:16 am

P. Manning QB (IND)
M. Bulger QB (StL)

R. Grant RB (GB)
D. McFadden RB (OAK)
S. Young RB (DEN)
D Williams RB (CAR)

S. HOLMES WR (PIT)
M. HARRISON WR (IND) haha i took him too
R. WHITE WR (ATL)
P CRAYTON WR (DAL)
JAMES HARDY WR (BUF) late late pick

V. DAVIS TE (SF)
B. UTECHT TE (CIN)

S. GOSTKOWSKI K (NE)

CHICAGO D
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Post by JaysonAych Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:36 am

2 of the same starting WRs? We may both get to watch our receiving corps go down in flames. :roflmao:

Peyton Manning? What order were you in the first round?
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:43 am

i was 5th position, but since i dumped keeper players, i was in a supplemental preliminary draft round before other players, and one guy had (has) adrian peterson (the good one) and uh. steven jackson or someone. westbrook?
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Post by JaysonAych Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:46 am

While I definitely have some weak spots, I haven't made any changes. There's just not anything better left in free agency. The way my luck goes, if I make a change, the person I dump will end up doing great.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:50 am

I'm actually happy about my team. this year will come down to the waiver wire.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:51 am

well, and also, my team is a bit of a gamble in some young players. we'll see. I think that i'll have a badass team next year for sure, though, with 3 keepers.
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Post by JaysonAych Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:53 am

I'm just happy that football is finally here. Long damn 7 months.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:56 am

jesus h christ TELL me about it.
fuck. sunday is going to RULE.

OH NO
i have a date at 7
an the fucking bears play indy at 7:15!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oh well, indy will STOMP us.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:57 am

also, my date loves college football.
not NFL though.
:undies:
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:57 am

the perfect progression.
and now bed.
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Post by JaysonAych Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:46 am

big_jesus wrote:also, my date loves college football.
not NFL though.
:undies:
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Well, if she likes watching powerhouse teams that give their players Escalades and houses play 8 out of 12 games at home against teams that can't afford goalposts, that's her bag I guess. At least she likes some kind of football.

However, NFL > College football.

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Post by VS Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:02 am

College ball sucks.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:04 pm

i agree. it's like the overscoring version of real football. the BCS championships are okay, but the system is just fucked.
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Post by VS Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:08 pm

we should've had an af FF team. The last time I played FF was like 9 years ago. I got a bevy of good players and refused to trade any of them, then i just let my team wallow and never logged into the site again. People were pissed.
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Post by big_jesus Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:00 pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Post by 911 Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:15 pm

I make all your teams look like pure garbage. This is my non-pay team and sort of sucks because I had a bad keeper pool to choose from. I took over the team who finished 2nd last.

QB: Kurt Warner (Ari - QB)
WR1: Braylon Edwards (Cle - WR) This player is a keeper.
WR2: Donald Driver (GB - WR)
WR3: Devin Hester (Chi - WR)
RB1: Jamal Lewis (Cle - RB) This player is a keeper.
RB2: Ricky Williams (Mia - RB)
TE: Tony Gonzalez (KC - TE) This player is a keeper.
WR/TE: Owen Daniels (Hou - TE)
WR/RB: Darren McFadden (Oak - RB)

Bench:
Matt Schaub (Hou - QB)
Steve Smith (Car - WR) This player is a keeper.
Fred Taylor (Jac - RB) This player is a keeper.
Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
Greg Olsen (Chi - TE)
DeSean Jackson (Phi - WR)
Jason Elam (Atl - K)

Houston (Hou - DEF)

Chris Johnson may elevate himself above Jamal Lewis and Steve Smith will obv. be a starter once his suspension is over.

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Post by 911 Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:21 pm

And in the league I run, the proud Hamilton Tiger Cats:

QB: Donovan McNabb (Phi - QB)
WR1: Randy Moss (NE - WR) This player is a keeper.
WR2: Andre Johnson (Hou - WR)
RB1: LaDainian Tomlinson (SD - RB) This player is a keeper.
RB2: Ricky Williams (Mia - RB)

TE: Vernon Davis (SF - TE)

Bench:
Darren McFadden (Oak - RB)
Marc Bulger (StL - QB)
Hines Ward (Pit - WR)
Chris Johnson (Ten - RB)
Rashard Mendenhall (Pit - RB)

K
Mason Crosby (GB - K)

D
Patrick Willis (SF - DL) This player is a keeper.
Bob Sanders (Ind - DB)
Nate Clements (SF - DB)
Paul Posluszny (Buf - DL)
A.J. Hawk (GB - DL)

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Post by 911 Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:21 pm

And the only college games they bother to show here are blowouts. Go appalachian state!

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Post by JaysonAych Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:17 am

I saw that Reggie Williams (WR, JAC) was just released, and I'm going to try and claim him off waivers and dump Todd Heap. I'm second in line on the waiver wire, so we'll see how it goes. Looks to be a good TD scorer, but not much of a yardage guy and just coming off a hamstring injury, though will probably be a better 3rd or 4th option that what I have now.
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Post by 911 Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:45 am

I think he might be hurt.

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Post by 911 Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:46 am

It seems as if he's playing week 1. Since Garrard only has him and Matt Jones to throw to it may not be a bad play.

And Jay - past week 1 don't expect waiver positions to mean a whole lot

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Post by JaysonAych Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:52 am

Yeah, I'd seen that he'd been hurt, but he was listed as probable for the first week. He'll be better than having Heap languishing on my roster.
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Post by big_jesus Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:41 pm

i'm starting Selvin Young and Darren McFadden. Grant isn't gonna be able to run on the Vikes' D too well.
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Post by 911 Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:37 pm

I played Ricky Williams over Run DMC. Might have been a poor choice this early in the season. Also have Chris Johnson sitting on the bench, just in case.

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