I cant make up my mind.

My fiance and I need a second vehicle. I am going for the $20,000 range and for it to be her daily driver. I am waiting until I am done in Cold Lake to get myself a new car as that trip puts a good 700kms/week on the car.

Should I get an SUV like an Xterra for ski trips, transporting kayaks?
Or should I get a small compact car like a mini that would be a really good daily commuter for her.

I have been tossing this idea back and forth in my mind for like 2 months now and cant seem to come to any decision.



Once in awhile I think about getting myself a mini cooper S, and giving her my civic. Then when we move back to vancouver giving her the mini and getting a WRX or G37X. I can pretty much afford anything I want at this point, but I dont know what I want.

I was in the same boat when I started this job. I could have gotten pretty much any car - not any car, but some pretty sweet ones. Had no idea what I wanted, so I just got a civic. fffuck. Good little car though, and efficient.

Why not get a WRX Wagon or something similar.

Legacy Sedan? Suzuki SX4 Toyota Matrix, etc


But if canada is anything like the US, anything that is GM, Chrysler, Or Ford and is an SUV is worth about $3. Liberties, Escapes, Grand Cherokees, etc


I'd go for a WJ with the 4.7L, then save the rest of the monies

I could probably make up my mind a lot easier if they made a compact car in awd (besides the SX4).

1300ZUK wrote:Why not get a WRX Wagon or something similar.

Legacy Sedan? Suzuki SX4 Toyota Matrix, etc


But if canada is anything like the US, anything that is GM, Chrysler, Or Ford and is an SUV is worth about $3. Liberties, Escapes, Grand Cherokees, etc


I'd go for a WJ with the 4.7L, then save the rest of the monies

I like the cherokee but it is too big for her. she wants something small and compact, but she sees the benefit of awd when it snows. I would actually like to get something nice for her that she will keep clean and we will use it as our main car on weekends.

umm hi. thats what a grand cherokee is best for.


'04 Grand Cherokee
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 4-door wagon

Overall Length, in. 181.5

Overall Width, in. 72.3

06 Civic

External dimensions: overall length (inches): 176.7, overall width (inches): 69,

1300ZUK wrote:umm hi. thats what a grand cherokee is best for.


'04 Grand Cherokee
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 4-door wagon

Overall Length, in. 181.5

Overall Width, in. 72.3

06 Civic

External dimensions: overall length (inches): 176.7, overall width (inches): 69,

is that a civic sedan you got that overall lenght from?

also. Edmonton sucks for trying to find used cars online. Fuckers.

yes i believe thats a sedan length.

1300ZUK wrote:umm hi. thats what a grand cherokee is best for.


'04 Grand Cherokee
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 4-door wagon

Overall Length, in. 181.5

Overall Width, in. 72.3

06 Civic

External dimensions: overall length (inches): 176.7, overall width (inches): 69,

What does that prove? The Civic is substantially smaller. Plus you should include weight and height in your little comparison there.

I tried to convince her to get the Grand Cherokee awhile ago. I made no progress.

thewalrus wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:umm hi. thats what a grand cherokee is best for.


'04 Grand Cherokee
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 4-door wagon

Overall Length, in. 181.5

Overall Width, in. 72.3

06 Civic

External dimensions: overall length (inches): 176.7, overall width (inches): 69,

What does that prove? The Civic is substantially smaller. Plus you should include weight and height in your little comparison there.

I think he was trying to say that the cherokee is not much bigger than a civic in some sick convoluted way.

millertime wrote:

thewalrus wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:umm hi. thats what a grand cherokee is best for.


'04 Grand Cherokee
Vehicle Dimensions
Specification 4-door wagon

Overall Length, in. 181.5

Overall Width, in. 72.3

06 Civic

External dimensions: overall length (inches): 176.7, overall width (inches): 69,

What does that prove? The Civic is substantially smaller. Plus you should include weight and height in your little comparison there.

I think he was trying to say that the cherokee is not much bigger than a civic in some sick convoluted way.

I know. That's ridiculous. You feel those extra inches.

xterras are nice. my buddy has one. decent mileage for an suv, too.

millertime wrote:
I like the cherokee but it is too big for her.

But you're considering an Xterra?

lol

I like the xterra myself, one of my riding buddies has one and I've spent a fair amount of time in it shuttling up nasty forest roads to trailheads. And the plastic on the backs of the backseats is nice for just tossing bikes inside without much worry for the interior.

ryguy79 wrote:

millertime wrote:
I like the cherokee but it is too big for her.

But you're considering an Xterra?

She said yes to an Xterra, and No to a cherokee. What do you want me to do? Of course, I could put the dimensions on paper in front of her.... but we all know how women feel when you present them with logic............

Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

1300ZUK wrote:Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

the only logical choice is for her to get a 5-door impreza wagon. But for some reason she doesn't like the way they look.

ryguy79 wrote:

millertime wrote:
I like the cherokee but it is too big for her.

But you're considering an Xterra?

I've driven an Xterra and a Grand Cherokee. I prefer the latter. Especially if its one of the earlier xterras with 20 HP.

I guess i don't like Xterras because it seems like everytime i go off-road some douche bag Frat boy wanna be thinks its the shit and ends up getting stuck in 3' of mud. But that might just be a Michigan thing.

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

the only logical choice is for her to get a 5-door impreza wagon. But for some reason she doesn't like the way they look.

Have you ever seen the Blues Brothers, when Aretha Franklin gets put in her place.

Listen here woman, I'm the man.

1300ZUK wrote:

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

the only logical choice is for her to get a 5-door impreza wagon. But for some reason she doesn't like the way they look.

Have you ever seen the Blues Brothers, when Aretha Franklin gets put in her place.

Listen here woman, I'm the man.

Its her vehicle. Not mine.

millertime wrote:

ryguy79 wrote:

millertime wrote:
I like the cherokee but it is too big for her.

But you're considering an Xterra?

She said yes to an Xterra, and No to a cherokee. What do you want me to do? Of course, I could put the dimensions on paper in front of her.... but we all know how women feel when you present them with logic............

Its just that women are hilarious.

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

the only logical choice is for her to get a 5-door impreza wagon. But for some reason she doesn't like the way they look.

Legacy?

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

the only logical choice is for her to get a 5-door impreza wagon. But for some reason she doesn't like the way they look.

Have you ever seen the Blues Brothers, when Aretha Franklin gets put in her place.

Listen here woman, I'm the man.

Its her vehicle. Not mine.

Sounds like you're doing the buying though...

What about a mini suv like a Rav4 or Subaru Forester? Their AWD/4WD are better than crossovers. Or hell even a crossover if she wants something with AWD and you want to be able to carry gear. Just find a few that you find appealing and bring some brochures home, then she can see interior options.

You really have a lot of options.

What about an AWD Safari or Savanna, Or maybe a Quiggley Van!!!

ryguy79 wrote:

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:Well Clearly the only logical choice is a Suzuki Samurai, Canada even has the Long Wheelbase Ones

the only logical choice is for her to get a 5-door impreza wagon. But for some reason she doesn't like the way they look.

Have you ever seen the Blues Brothers, when Aretha Franklin gets put in her place.

Listen here woman, I'm the man.

Its her vehicle. Not mine.

Sounds like you're doing the buying though...

Yes and No. It is her final say as she is the one who will have to drive it everyday. But she wants us to purchase something that I like as well.

1300ZUK wrote:What about an AWD Safari or Savanna, Or maybe a Quiggley Van!!!

are you fucked?

SBF wrote:What about a mini suv like a Rav4 or Subaru Forester? Their AWD/4WD are better than crossovers. Or hell even a crossover if she wants something with AWD and you want to be able to carry gear. Just find a few that you find appealing and bring some brochures home, then she can see interior options.

You really have a lot of options.

she kind of liked the idea of a RAV4. I tried to push the CRV but that didn't get anywhere, not sure why.

millertime wrote:

SBF wrote:What about a mini suv like a Rav4 or Subaru Forester? Their AWD/4WD are better than crossovers. Or hell even a crossover if she wants something with AWD and you want to be able to carry gear. Just find a few that you find appealing and bring some brochures home, then she can see interior options.

You really have a lot of options.

she kind of liked the idea of a RAV4. I tried to push the CRV but that didn't get anywhere, not sure why.

I like the looks of the Rav4 over the CRV IMO

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:What about an AWD Safari or Savanna, Or maybe a Quiggley Van!!!

are you fucked?

That was a joke, But i would get my left nut for a Powerstroke Quiggley Van. But i doubt your girlfriend would.

the CRV is awesome. so is the rav4. it would be a tough choice, if i had to buy one. rav4 has that great v6 option, but the CRV is much more refined, with a significantly nicer interior. both have optional AWD.

frankly, i'd put the new forrester high on the list, too. really nice car.

B9 Tribeca's aren't too bad either now that tey don't have the flying Vagina front.

Aristotle wrote:the CRV is awesome. so is the rav4. it would be a tough choice, if i had to buy one. rav4 has that great v6 option, but the CRV is much more refined, with a significantly nicer interior. both have optional AWD.

frankly, i'd put the new forrester high on the list, too. really nice car.

Man, I didn't realize the CRV was that weak. I suggested the Forester. Got shut down on that one too, never got a reason either though. Maybe some answers will come out when she gets back from Costa Rica and starts thinking about it again.

My vote is for the 5 door impreza wagon though. $20,000. Everything she needs.

Yeah but did she see the new one? it's only been out since October and looks nothing like the old one.

1300ZUK wrote:

millertime wrote:

1300ZUK wrote:What about an AWD Safari or Savanna, Or maybe a Quiggley Van!!!

are you fucked?

That was a joke, But i would get my left nut for a Powerstroke Quiggley Van. But i doubt your girlfriend would.

Id get an AWD savanna if I went back into the trades or if I struck out on my own building houses. Neither of which would be a good idea in this market.

subaru forester

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