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fresh from the shitty company that gets a few billion from the us taxpayer almost daily...
Another AIG Resort "Junket": Top Execs Caught on Tape
KNXV Discovers $343,000 Secret Gathering, AIG Signs and Logos Hidden
By BRIAN ROSS and JOSEPH RHEE
November 10, 2008—
Even as the company was pleading the federal government for another $40 billion dollars in loans, AIG sent top executives to a secret gathering at a luxury resort in Phoenix last week.
Reporters for abc15.com (KNXV) caught the AIG executives on hidden cameras poolside and leaving the spa at the Pointe Hilton Squaw Peak Resort, despite apparent efforts by the company to disguise its involvement.
"AIG made significant efforts to disguise the conference, making sure there were no AIG logos or signs anywhere on the property," KNXV reported.
(click here to see the full KNXV report)
A hotel employee told KNXV reporter Josh Bernstein, "We can't even say the word [AIG]."
A company spokesperson, Nick Ashooh, confirmed AIG instructed the hotel to make sure there were no AIG signs or mention of the company by staff.
"We're trying to avoid confrontation, keep our profile low," said Ashooh. "Some of our employees have been harassed."
"What do they have to hide," asked Congressman Elijah Cummings (D-MD) who said he had been promised by AIG CEO Edward Liddy that the company would stop such "junkets."
"They came to us and said they were drowning and needed help. A person who is drowning doesn't jump up and start partying," said Congressman Cummings.
Cummings said Liddy should resign as AIG CEO.
The AIG spokesman said Cummings "was mistaken" about the nature of the Phoenix event.
"It's terrible," said former AIG chairman Hank Greenberg. "I don't think the left hand knows what the right hand is doing there."
AIG came under fire last month when Congressional investigators revealed its executives attended a seminar for independent insurance agents at another luxury resort, in Southern California.
The AIG spokesman said the meeting in Phoenix was for independent financial advisors and "was the kind of thing we have to do to run our business."
Company officials confirmed the company spent an estimated $343,000 to sponsor the 2008 Asset Management Conference. A spokesperson said much of the cost would be recouped from product sponsors at the conference.
KNXV said the president of AIG unit Royal Alliance Associates, Art Tambaro, stayed in a two-story Casita suite and worked out at the spa while others participated in seminars.
Tambaro and other AIG executives declined to comment when approached by KNXV.
The AIG spokesman said the Casita suite was provided for free by the hotel because it had booked so many rooms.
AIG confirmed that former football quarterback Terry Bradshaw had been scheduled to appear and sign autographs. The company said it canceled Bradshaw's appearance which was to have been paid for by another company that was a sponsor of the event.
AIG said it conducted a "top to bottom review" of expenses "to validate that only expenses required to ensure the meeting's success are incurred."
The president of the AIG Advisor Group, CEO Larry Roth declined to speak to KNXV.
In a written statement, he said "We take very seriously our commitment to aggressively manage meeting costs." He said financial planners were charged a registration fee and for their travel.
A spokesman said the rooms at the luxury resort were made available at a discount rate of $189 a night.
The reports of the resort gathering came on the same day the U.S. Treasury announced it would invest $40 billion in AIG to bring the amount the federal government has put up to prevent the troubled insurance company from declaring bankruptcy to $150 billion.
"This action was necessary to maintain the stability of our financial system," said Neel Kashkari, who heads the government's bailout program.
"In return," said Kashkari in a speech today, "AIG must comply with stringent limitations on executive compensation for its top executives, gold parachutes, its bonus pool, corporate expenses and lobbying."
In addition to Roth and Tambaro, the AIG executives who spent last week at the Phoenix resort, according to KNXV, were Mark Schlafly, president and CEO, FSC Securities' Gary Bender, senior vice president, Investment Advisory Services; and Stuart Rogers, senior vice president.
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haha kill 'em all and let god sort them out.
I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
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Well, presumably they'll end up making more than the $343,000, either directly or indirectly, through the transactions at that meeting.TheWoerus wrote:haha kill 'em all and let god sort them out.
I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
But I still find the lavishness that's ubiquitous in the business community to be pretty disgusting. The idea is, I suppose "if we can afford to flaunt/waste such dramatic amounts of money to impress you, your money is safe in our hands." But it's a completely superficial causality.
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...though I find pretty much all ostentatious displays of wealth distasteful.
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these wealthy shitbags made all their money on illusions. now they should be losing all that phoney money and going out of business, but they refuse to relinquish it, so the US govt takes on the debt and keeps them going. doesn't sound very much like capitalism.
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Turbofrog wrote:...though I find pretty much all ostentatious displays of wealth distasteful.
I disagree to an extent. I need to know the mindset of the people first. I can't just go on display. If a person has the money to buy something, and it's obviously expensive, but they buy it because they like it, and not to display their wealth I don't see anything wrong with that. I might be jealous. But frankly I'm jealous a lot anyway.
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The correct word you're looking for is "envious"
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I'm also that, but I submit that jealous would also work.Olds wrote:The correct word you're looking for is "envious"
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TheWoerus wrote:haha kill 'em all and let god sort them out.
I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
Yeah like where is this talent going to go in industry that pays them as well with as many perks? The argument for such is a non-starter and AIG needs to have the govt. come in and fire EVERYONE of them and if that mean it dies as a corp then absorb its remaining assets and debts into another corporate structure that may not be so bullish in these times.
From Paulson to Bernanke down to all of these execs, they are all DRUNK on greed and they all need to be cut out like gangrene is in a human body. The pain from such may be bad but the patient may better survive
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Aristotle wrote:these wealthy shitbags made all their money on illusions. now they should be losing all that phoney money and going out of business, but they refuse to relinquish it, so the US govt takes on the debt and keeps them going. doesn't sound very much like capitalism.
Just like the proverbial Ponzi scheme.
Pon⋅zi [pon-zee]
–noun
a swindle in which a quick return, made up of money from new investors, on an initial investment lures the victim into much bigger risks.
Also called Ponzi game, Ponzi scheme.
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after Charles Ponzi (died 1949), the organizer of such a scheme in the U.S., 1919–20
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TheWoerus wrote:I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
Yes, they need to keep around the awesome talent that ruined the company to the point of needing a bailout.
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TheWoerus wrote:haha kill 'em all and let god sort them out.
I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
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JaysonAych wrote:TheWoerus wrote:I'm sure Pennz just thinks this is necessary to keep the best talent around, though.
Yes, they need to keep around the awesome talent that ruined the company to the point of needing a bailout.
They were victims ok?
Poor distressed souls exposed by bad decisions. They should remind you of the princess from the Mario games
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