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Post by Swerve on Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:17 am

Great season.

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Post by Talon on Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:01 pm

It’s been okay. I wish they’d get rid of the fuel flow restrictions so they could rev the engines all the way out to the 15k limit, rather than the 12k to save gas. I do wish there was more fight up front. Trade 2013 RBR for 2014 Merc. The one team dominance is getting kind of old. I think 2015 will be much more entertaining when teams can update their cars.

I guess I am a little bitter because I am pulling for Ferrari and they blow this year.
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Post by ascona on Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:16 pm

i'd like to see how big ricciardos grin can get when he, like, wins the whole ordeal. or something
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Post by Pennzoil GT-R on Mon Aug 04, 2014 9:45 am

Meh. Been boring as fuck the last few years. Whoever interprets the rule changes best each season wins. Doesn't matter who is driving. I've completely lost interest in F1.

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Post by Talon on Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:52 pm

I wish the teams were allowed to make changes to the cars throughout the season. Like major changes, not the piddly shit. That would make things more interesting.
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Post by Swerve on Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:46 am

True. But I can't believe how man people cola in about everything. The perfect example is that the cars are now more difficult to drive. But you don't hear the whiners from previous seasons acknowledge that these drivers do an amazing job of not killing each other in these slidier cars.
And we're back to the 80s and 90s of cars teams being mismatched by seconds per lap, allowing drivers like Hamilton to fight through the field. Plus the best team is unreliable, also much like the late 90s.
I actually think a lot of people are living in fantasy land regarding what F1 was once like. The only thing I would change would be more freedom of engine configurations, tyre manufacturers - essentially a bit of variety. This year has proven that a dominant team doesn't ruin the chance of exciting racing, so they may as well mix it up.

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Post by Pennzoil GT-R on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:10 pm

Swerve wrote:True. But I can't believe how man people cola in about everything. The perfect example is that the cars are now more difficult to drive. But you don't hear the whiners from previous seasons acknowledge that these drivers do an amazing job of not killing each other in these slidier cars.
And we're back to the 80s and 90s of cars teams being mismatched by seconds per lap, allowing drivers like Hamilton to fight through the field. Plus the best team is unreliable, also much like the late 90s.
I actually think a lot of people are living in fantasy land regarding what F1 was once like. The only thing I would change would be more freedom of engine configurations, tyre manufacturers - essentially a bit of variety. This year has proven that a dominant team doesn't ruin the chance of exciting racing, so they may as well mix it up.

In the past multiple manufacturers were in with a chance of winning in any given season. Ferrari+Renault, Ferrari+McLaren, McLaren+Williams+Benetton, McLaren+Williams+Ferrari....and so on. Right now if you're not in a Mercedes you stand no chance. The last four years if you weren't in a Red Bull you stood no chance.

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Post by Swerve on Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:26 am

Well it depends if you are more excited by racing or by results because not only is that not true, but you are no doubt aware the three main reasons some 80s/90s seasons were close had nothing to do with outright competitiveness in terms of lap times of different constructors...

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Post by Dodge on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:11 pm

The fact that Pennz thinks this is the worst season ever, solidifies my opinion that its been a great season.

So for people who do actually watch f1, whats your take on the Rosberg/Hamilton deal. I saw it as a silly drivers mistake on Nico's part, but i'd hate to see Mercedes pull the fun out of the season and force them to not race each other over it.
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Post by ascona on Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:22 pm

i should really download yesterdays race, as i couldn't watch it on the telly at home....

i did enjoy the atmosphere at the track, though Very Happy
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Post by Swerve on Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:13 am

I thought it was just a racing incident which is how I see 90% of the comings together that result in ridiculous suspensions.

The good news is there's not a lot Mercedes can do once the drivers get in the cars. I can't see Hamilton following team orders and Nico just needs to accumulate points.

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Post by Talon on Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:59 pm

Dodge wrote:The fact that Pennz thinks this is the worst season ever, solidifies my opinion that its been a great season.

So for people who do actually watch f1, whats your take on the Rosberg/Hamilton deal. I saw it as a silly drivers mistake on Nico's part, but i'd hate to see Mercedes pull the fun out of the season and force them to not race each other over it.

I think Nico is sick of playing second fiddle on the team even though he's been leading the championship all but one (?) race of the season. I think, he thinks, he's always having to concede to Lewis. However, dumb move on his part. Lewis set up for the left and Nico didn't move. Vettel did the same thing on lap one but blew the turn and rather than try to save it just bailed and went through the chicane, which was the right call. Nico was trying to win the race on the second lap and screwed them both... more Lewis obviously.

Two guys that didn't want to give up their track position and this is what happens. Are we seeing the beginnings of another Senna/Prost?

I can only imagine the drama that will be if Nico wins the championship by 18 points or less. If he wins by more or Hamilton wins, all will be forgotten in Spa like the Multi-21 debacle in Malaysia last year. It could get interesting with double points in Abu Dhabi (as much as I disagree with any race being worth double points).
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Post by Swerve on Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:34 pm

Vettel to Ferrari and Alonso to McLaren. Bit of a shame that those two won't be at the same team - it would be great to find out who really is the better driver.

Oh well - Ferrari and McLaren Honda are teams that would be great to see back battling for titles.

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Post by Turbojett on Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:02 pm

Ferrari got rid of Alonso? I thought he was their golden boy. Or is it more a case of Alonso quit and Ferrari headhunted Vettel from RBR?
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Post by Swerve on Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:31 pm

Alonso wanted to leave and Ferrari allowed a break of contract so long as they could get Vettel.

I didn't catch Suzuka (it's easier to watch the races on at 10pm Sunday than 4pm) but Bianchi's accident is serious.

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Post by Talon on Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:39 pm

Yes, the Bianchi accident is very bad.

Poor kid. I hope he pulls through. He'll never drive competitively again...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nascar-from-the-marbles/video--jules-bianchi-slid-into-the-tractor-at-japan-f1-race-at-high-speed-212203149.html
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Post by Turbojett on Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:14 pm

yeah, I hope he's going to pull through. Poor guy. That was such a brutal wreck. And those cranes are weighted in the back, right were he ended up underneath.

Were they under a caution when this happened? I mean it makes sense if a crane is removing another wreckage from the track area.
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Post by Turbojett on Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:18 pm

actually, news is that he's still critical but stabilizing. So I suppose this is good news.
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Post by Talon on Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:10 pm

I don't think so.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9507770/Bianchi-Suffered-A-Diffuse-Axonal-Injury-

Wiki Diffuse Axonal Injury. It's not good. In fact it's really bad...
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Post by Talon on Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:10 pm

A pic I took of Jules in Austin last year...

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Post by Dodge on Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:33 pm

Talon wrote:I don't think so.

http://www.planetf1.com/news/3213/9507770/Bianchi-Suffered-A-Diffuse-Axonal-Injury-

Wiki Diffuse Axonal Injury. It's not good. In fact it's really bad...

Another case similar to schumacher's. He may "live" but its highly unlikely he'll ever be "Jules" again Woe
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Post by Turbojett on Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:01 am

when I posted the news was up to date by 30min. Did his condition worsen?

edit: here's the story I read. He's not well of course, and he's still in intensive care, but his family says he's "critical but stable"
http://m.bbc.com/sport/formula1/29521187
So no, not great news, but better than bad news.
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Post by Talon on Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:04 pm

Turbojett wrote:when I posted the news was up to date by 30min. Did his condition worsen?

edit: here's the story I read. He's not well of course, and he's still in intensive care, but his family says he's "critical but stable"
http://m.bbc.com/sport/formula1/29521187
So no, not great news, but better than bad news.



Did you Wiki Diffuse Axonal Injury?

"The outcome is frequently coma, with over 90% of patients with severe DAI never regaining consciousness.[2] Those who do wake up often remain significantly impaired.[3]"

That's pretty bad news, IMO. He is still alive, but there is a 90% chance he'll never wake up. Granted, Richard Hammond had the same thing and made a full recovery. So of course there is hope, but that 90% part keeps jumping out at me.
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Post by Turbojett on Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:59 pm

I get what the net outcome is. I understand that if/when he wakes up he may not even be cognizant of his surroundings, and like Dodge said, he may never be "Jules" again. So yes, if he pulls through, the outcome is still probably not going to be good.

But all I was getting at though was that he wasn't dying, and that he might pull through and survive. Hope springs eternal, y'know?
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Post by Talon on Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:48 pm

Fair enough. Like one of my favorite 5FDP song's, lyrics: "It could have been much worse, but it should have been better."
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