Sighting on the highway

ascona wrote:

Turbofrog wrote:
d) People who cruise in the left lane are douchebags.

tell that to dunnas

JaysonAych wrote:

Dodge wrote:What pisses me off the most isnt that I cant travel in the left lane at an appropriate speed..its that you left laners weave in and out through all the lanes because the left lane isnt traveling at 100mph, cutting everyone off so that you can get to your pap smear an extra 14 seconds sooner..every time you change lanes you are just adding to congestion by making everyone else check up...just stay in your lane shut up and get there when you get there!

Wouldn't have to do so much weaving if the slower traffic in the left lane would move right.

Signs around here say it explicitly: Keep right, except to pass.

Talon wrote:

Dodge wrote:someone convince me that doing 20mph above the speed limit is less dangerous than me doing 10mph above the speed limit in the left lane, and that'll be that.

What pisses me off the most isnt that I cant travel in the left lane at an appropriate speed..its that you left laners weave in and out through all the lanes because the left lane isnt traveling at 100mph, cutting everyone off so that you can get to your pap smear an extra 14 seconds sooner..every time you change lanes you are just adding to congestion by making everyone else check up...just stay in your lane shut up and get there when you get there!

Dude, your second paragraph answers your first. Just get the hell out of the way and they wouldn't have to weave in and out of everyone to get around YOU. YOU'RE the cause. I usually give someone about a minute to move and I go into other lanes to get around. You like being tailgated? You like getting everyone driving around you to pissed off and more aggressive? Why bother, just move.

If I'm doing 75-80 in the fast lane and someone comes up behind me, I get out of the way. I don't feel like being tailgated or having someone weave into different lanes to get around. Why would you want to invite that type of driving near you? Just move your ass... not hard.

honor m4n wrote:

TheLightedPath wrote:So he was already going over the speed limit and your bitching about him for not breaking the law more?

Left lane is for passing, not cruising. I hate it when people do that.

big_jesus wrote:

Talon wrote:

Dodge wrote:someone convince me that doing 20mph above the speed limit is less dangerous than me doing 10mph above the speed limit in the left lane, and that'll be that.

What pisses me off the most isnt that I cant travel in the left lane at an appropriate speed..its that you left laners weave in and out through all the lanes because the left lane isnt traveling at 100mph, cutting everyone off so that you can get to your pap smear an extra 14 seconds sooner..every time you change lanes you are just adding to congestion by making everyone else check up...just stay in your lane shut up and get there when you get there!

Dude, your second paragraph answers your first. Just get the hell out of the way and they wouldn't have to weave in and out of everyone to get around YOU. YOU'RE the cause. I usually give someone about a minute to move and I go into other lanes to get around. You like being tailgated? You like getting everyone driving around you to pissed off and more aggressive? Why bother, just move.

If I'm doing 75-80 in the fast lane and someone comes up behind me, I get out of the way. I don't feel like being tailgated or having someone weave into different lanes to get around. Why would you want to invite that type of driving near you? Just move your ass... not hard.

but it's principle for him. he's gonna stay there so you have to right lane pass him just so he can, in turn, rationalize the principle he's acting on. even though the common rule of any thoroughfare is that the left is for passing. even on escalators and moving walkways. it's ingrained in common thought.

Olds wrote:Based on what many of the left lane cruisers look like, I do think a lot of it is just pure obliviousness (oblivion???). God, I wish driver licensing in N.A. was as strict as it is in Germany or other European countries.

JaysonAych wrote:Well, move over and let them get the ticket. And laugh and point at them as you drive by.

Omni wrote:

honor m4n wrote:

TheLightedPath wrote:So he was already going over the speed limit and your bitching about him for not breaking the law more?

Left lane is for passing, not cruising. I hate it when people do that.

+1

I should never have to pass people on the right. I hate doing it but I've had to so many times.

TheLightedPath wrote:I disagree. Unless its an actual law I am not obligated to do shit. I would also like to know when I mentioned anything about enforcing speed or thinking i was a police officer I don't give a damn if you speed but if you are speeding and decide that im not speeding enough you can pretty much just kiss my ass cause im not getting myself killed going faster or am i going to worry about changing lanes. Your commonly accepted rules are just the rules of assholes who didn't wake up early enough and are now late for work or for whatever reason want to go real fast in their new car.

Misuse and common practice

Common Practice and most law on United States Highways is that the left lane is reserved for passing and faster moving traffic, and that traffic using the left lane must yield to traffic wishing to overtake. The United States Uniform Vehicle Code states:

Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic ...

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology's website on "Keep Right Laws" points out that:

This law refers to the "normal" speed of traffic, not the "legal" speed of traffic. The 60 MPH driver in a 55 MPH zone where everybody else is going 65 MPH must move right..."[1]

It is also illegal in many states in the U.S. to use the "far left" or passing lane on a major highway as a travelling lane (as opposed to passing), or to fail to yield to faster moving traffic that is attempting to overtake in that lane. For example, Colorado's "Left Lane Law" states:

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed-limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor-vehicles that are in a non-passing lane...(emphasis added)[2]

Other examples, such as Massachusetts (General Statute 89-4B), New Jersey, Maine, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and others, make it illegal to fail to yield to traffic that seeks to overtake in the left lane, or to create any other "obstruction" in the passing lane that hinders the flow of traffic. As a result, heavy trucks are often prohibited from using the passing lane.

A common problem arising from misuse of the "fast lane" is that it forces faster moving traffic that wishes to overtake on the left to change lanes, do so on the right, and then change lanes again. Further, if the vehicle misusing the passing lane is going slower than the flow of other traffic, it forces those using the middle "travel" lane (but who are moving faster) to pass on the right as well, even though they have no intention of doing so.

A driver hoping to pass a slow motorist in the "fast lane" is stuck in an awkward situation. One strategy is to signal a lane change toward the center median. Another is to flash headlights. A third, which sacrifices safety, is to drive very close to the "fast lane" driver's bumper (this is known as tailgating). In Germany it is common to signal a lane change toward the center of the road, as if there were another lane to the left of the "fast lane".

Most commonly, motorists will attempt to overtake the outer car on the inner lane either to continue at a fast pace or to pass a car that is simply going too slow in the passing lane. For high-capacity multilane freeways (three or more lanes per direction), many motorists often pass on the inner lane, largely in response to misuse of the "passing lane" by slower traffic.

TheLightedPath wrote:I disagree. Unless its an actual law I am not obligated to do shit. I would also like to know when I mentioned anything about enforcing speed or thinking i was a police officer I don't give a damn if you speed but if you are speeding and decide that im not speeding enough you can pretty much just kiss my ass cause im not getting myself killed going faster or am i going to worry about changing lanes. Your commonly accepted rules are just the rules of assholes who didn't wake up early enough and are now late for work or for whatever reason want to go real fast in their new car.

TheLightedPath wrote:ok so I am going 75 in a 60 in the left lane. Cars on the right are going 55. You come behind going 80 I am supposed to slow down to 55 merge right *making them brake slowing down traffic more* then move back over to 75 till someone else comes along make traffic slow again as I move over. Second car passing me was going 85 so you slow down to 55 to move over *slowing traffic again*. Rather then everyone just oh I don't know obeying the speed limit and going around the speed limit and everyone getting there in a orderly fashion instead of everyone bouncing in and out of lanes all day like you guys want.

dunnas wrote:

TheLightedPath wrote:ok so I am going 75 in a 60 in the left lane. Cars on the right are going 55. You come behind going 80 I am supposed to slow down to 55 merge right *making them brake slowing down traffic more* then move back over to 75 till someone else comes along make traffic slow again as I move over. Second car passing me was going 85 so you slow down to 55 to move over *slowing traffic again*. Rather then everyone just oh I don't know obeying the speed limit and going around the speed limit and everyone getting there in a orderly fashion instead of everyone bouncing in and out of lanes all day like you guys want.

Ah, there you go. That's what I was talking about in my post. If you're going significantly quicker than the cars in the slow lane then no, I don't think you should have to slow right down to get across. As long as you'd get across as soon as an easier opportunity arises then that's perfectly fine as far as i'm concerned.

TheLightedPath wrote:Fact is speeding is speeding. There is a speed LIMIT and here they enforce it. I drive an hour to work everyday and the speed limit is 60 I do around 65 to 68 in what ever fucking lane i want and you do any faster and in about two seconds you will get pulled over. I used to be the one bitching about people moving over until i got 3 speeding tickets in as many months. Yes cops here WILL give you a ticket for 5 over.

dunnas wrote:I'd change safe to do so to convenient to do so. There's really nothing unsafe about having to slow down 15mph to slot into the right lane as far as i'm concerned, but it's certainly far from convenient and not something i'd do so someone can go flying by far faster than they should be given the traffic conditions.

honor m4n wrote:

Misuse and common practice

Common Practice and most law on United States Highways is that the left lane is reserved for passing and faster moving traffic, and that traffic using the left lane must yield to traffic wishing to overtake. The United States Uniform Vehicle Code states:

Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic ...

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology's website on "Keep Right Laws" points out that:

This law refers to the "normal" speed of traffic, not the "legal" speed of traffic. The 60 MPH driver in a 55 MPH zone where everybody else is going 65 MPH must move right..."[1]

It is also illegal in many states in the U.S. to use the "far left" or passing lane on a major highway as a travelling lane (as opposed to passing), or to fail to yield to faster moving traffic that is attempting to overtake in that lane. For example, Colorado's "Left Lane Law" states:

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed-limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor-vehicles that are in a non-passing lane...(emphasis added)[2]

Other examples, such as Massachusetts (General Statute 89-4B), New Jersey, Maine, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and others, make it illegal to fail to yield to traffic that seeks to overtake in the left lane, or to create any other "obstruction" in the passing lane that hinders the flow of traffic. As a result, heavy trucks are often prohibited from using the passing lane.

A common problem arising from misuse of the "fast lane" is that it forces faster moving traffic that wishes to overtake on the left to change lanes, do so on the right, and then change lanes again. Further, if the vehicle misusing the passing lane is going slower than the flow of other traffic, it forces those using the middle "travel" lane (but who are moving faster) to pass on the right as well, even though they have no intention of doing so.

A driver hoping to pass a slow motorist in the "fast lane" is stuck in an awkward situation. One strategy is to signal a lane change toward the center median. Another is to flash headlights. A third, which sacrifices safety, is to drive very close to the "fast lane" driver's bumper (this is known as tailgating). In Germany it is common to signal a lane change toward the center of the road, as if there were another lane to the left of the "fast lane".

Most commonly, motorists will attempt to overtake the outer car on the inner lane either to continue at a fast pace or to pass a car that is simply going too slow in the passing lane. For high-capacity multilane freeways (three or more lanes per direction), many motorists often pass on the inner lane, largely in response to misuse of the "passing lane" by slower traffic.

Pennzoil GT-R wrote:no wonder the drivers were so shit when i went to florida. if you sit at the limit in the outside lane here cops will flash you at best or at worst pull you. try that shit in germany or italy and you'll end up in an accident. outside lane traffic sits at 90-100 even on the restricted speed sections. ive been doing 150+ before and still had cars come up behind me

Olds wrote:

honor m4n wrote:

Misuse and common practice

Common Practice and most law on United States Highways is that the left lane is reserved for passing and faster moving traffic, and that traffic using the left lane must yield to traffic wishing to overtake. The United States Uniform Vehicle Code states:

Upon all roadways any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then available for traffic ...

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology's website on "Keep Right Laws" points out that:

This law refers to the "normal" speed of traffic, not the "legal" speed of traffic. The 60 MPH driver in a 55 MPH zone where everybody else is going 65 MPH must move right..."[1]

It is also illegal in many states in the U.S. to use the "far left" or passing lane on a major highway as a travelling lane (as opposed to passing), or to fail to yield to faster moving traffic that is attempting to overtake in that lane. For example, Colorado's "Left Lane Law" states:

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed-limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor-vehicles that are in a non-passing lane...(emphasis added)[2]

Other examples, such as Massachusetts (General Statute 89-4B), New Jersey, Maine, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and others, make it illegal to fail to yield to traffic that seeks to overtake in the left lane, or to create any other "obstruction" in the passing lane that hinders the flow of traffic. As a result, heavy trucks are often prohibited from using the passing lane.

A common problem arising from misuse of the "fast lane" is that it forces faster moving traffic that wishes to overtake on the left to change lanes, do so on the right, and then change lanes again. Further, if the vehicle misusing the passing lane is going slower than the flow of other traffic, it forces those using the middle "travel" lane (but who are moving faster) to pass on the right as well, even though they have no intention of doing so.

A driver hoping to pass a slow motorist in the "fast lane" is stuck in an awkward situation. One strategy is to signal a lane change toward the center median. Another is to flash headlights. A third, which sacrifices safety, is to drive very close to the "fast lane" driver's bumper (this is known as tailgating). In Germany it is common to signal a lane change toward the center of the road, as if there were another lane to the left of the "fast lane".

Most commonly, motorists will attempt to overtake the outer car on the inner lane either to continue at a fast pace or to pass a car that is simply going too slow in the passing lane. For high-capacity multilane freeways (three or more lanes per direction), many motorists often pass on the inner lane, largely in response to misuse of the "passing lane" by slower traffic.

That there was the smackdown we were looking for. Uniform Vehicle Code, beyotch.

TheLightedPath wrote:I don't think wikipedia counts as a smackdown and we already confirmed florida does not follow it.

Drive in the right lane and pass on the left. If there are three lanes, use the right lane for lower speed driving, the left for passing. If you stay in the right lane, watch for cars entering the expressway. Adjust your speed or move into the center lane so they can enter safely.